JackMaDavos馬云達(dá)沃斯接受采訪英文全文

1、JackMaDavos馬云達(dá)沃斯接受采訪英文全文JackMaDavos馬云達(dá)沃斯接受采訪英文全文5/5JackMaDavos馬云達(dá)沃斯接受采訪英文全文JackMaDavos2015interviewWellcomeJackMathankyouWeveallbecomeverycognitiveJackandhisstoryandwhenAlibabawentpublicwiththelargestIPOinhistory,weknewalotmoreabouthim,soIwanttotalkabouthispersonalstory,Iwanttotalkabouthowmanytimesh

2、etriedandfailed,andwhatkepthimgoing,Iwanttotalkaboutwhereheistodayandhowhegothereandwhereheisgoingandhowexpectstogetthereandifhegetstherewhatwillitallmeanforhimandforthepeoplethathewantstoinspire,so,beginwiththisquestion,though,Jack,whyareyoubackatDavos.Itsalongbreakforsevenyears,Ithinkmylasttimetri

3、pherewas2008,butIwascomingforyourtofindoneforyounggloballeaderfortomorrow,andIthinkrememberIneverheardaboutaDavoswhenIcame,butwhenIcameoutIandaSwitzerland,somanyyoungpeopledemonstratewassuchahorriblescenethatIwasanetandaskthemwhowantedtodoit,theysayNTglobalizationandaswhygrandmasthisisagreatthing,wh

4、ypeopleandyouknowdontlikeit,andthenwecomeallthewayfortwohourshere,theressomeRussiangonetheresapeoplecheckingouttheallgoisthattheresfollowerzapreason,weregoingtogointothatwhenIjoinedthefunattheyounggloballeader,Iwasthrilledbysomanyideasforthefirstofthreefouryears,Ivelearnedwhatdoestheglobalizationmea

5、n,whatisthecoppertocitizenshipmean,whataboutsocialresponsibilitymean,howallthesenewideasandseesomanygreatleaderstalkingaboutleadershipandthatbenefitalotandayear2008,and2009whenthefinancialcrisiscame,Ithinkaboutitgobacktoworkbecausewecanneverwintheworldbytalking,sogobacktospendsevenyears,nowIcomeback

6、,Ithinkittimestodosomethingreturn,soIlearnedsomuch,letstalkaboutyearsagosowhyIshouldnottalkingtoyounggloballeaderoftodayshellingwiththemhowwegone.C:Throughthatwasthething,letstartwithswhereyouaretodayjusthowbigisallabout,howmanypeoplecomeeveryday,Imeanpeoplecomeinaweekhowfastisitgrowing.M:yeah,wehav

7、eforoverahundredmillionbuyersvisitingoursiteshopinoursiteoureveryday,andwecreateahundredmillionandeverythingwecreated14millionjobsforchinadirectlyandindirectly,andwegrowfrom18peopleto30000people,meetingpeopleinmyapartmenttonow,wehaveafullbigcamperscomparedto15yearsago,wewerebigbutcomparedto15yearsla

8、terwithtoababy.C:Andabigwillyoube15yearsfromthem.M:Ithink15yearsago,Itoldmyteamthat15yearsinthepast15yearswegofromnothingtothissize,and15yearslaterIwantedpeopleseeknowaboutalibabanotopup,becauseitsalreadyeverywhere,Iwant15yearsagowhenwetalkaboutwhatise-commercewhysmallbusinesscanusingthise-commercet

9、hisinternetcandobusinesscrossthenation,andIhope15yearslaterpeopleforgetaboute-commerce,becausetheythinkitmegaselectricitynobodythinkisahigh-techtoday,nowthisissomethingthatIdontwant15yearslaterwestillwalkonthestraighttalkingaboutwhyandhowe-commercecanhelppeople.TalkabouttheIPOyoudiditexceedyourexpec

10、tationswell,itrettysasmallpIPO250.yeah,twolargestnottodointhehistory,numbertwowasChinesebank.Thankyou,IrememberyourtoothandwhilewewenttoraisesomefiveminutesremainingventurecapitalistdaughtersintheUSAandgotreject,andIsaywecomebackraisingsomealittlebitmore,butIthinkityouknowwhatwethinkmoreaboutisfor22

11、5billiondollarshowwecanspendthemoneyefficiently,becausethisisnotthemoneyvisitthetrustfromtheworld,thetrustfromthosepeopletheywantyoutobetterjobstohelpmorepeople,theywanthaveagoodreturn.SoIthinkgivememorepressurebecausewhenourmarketcapisbiggerthanIBMorsomedaywerebiggerthanWalmart,weareoneofthetop1015

12、largestmarketcapcompanyintheworld,Itoldmyteamandmyselfisthatture,werenotthatgoodbecauseyearsagopeoplesayalotaboutthemodelsterribledosenotmakemoneyhavethisandthatallthebigbadthings,becauseemmasbattery-basedbetter,谷歌isbetterandtheresuchmodelsnolikealibabaintheUSA,soItoldmyselfandpeople,wewillbettertha

13、npeoplethought,buttodaywhenwegotthatbigsizeIsaidno,werenotthatgoodaspeoplethought,wewerejustacompany15yearsold,averageageistwenty-seventwenty-eightyear,soyoungpeopleweredoingsomethingthathumanbeinghavenevertried.C:so.WhatIwanttotalkaboutthefuture,letmetakeyoubackto談未來（3:32）Comparedto15yearsago,weare

14、big;butcomparedto15yearslater,wearestillababy.Ithink15yearsago,Ihepast15years,wegrewfromnothingtothissize,and15yearslater,IwantpeopleseenoaboutAlibaba,noTaobao,becauseitisalreadyeverywhere.15yearsago,whenwetalkedaboutwhatise-commerce,whysmallbusinessescanusethise-commerceandthisInt

15、ernetanddobusinessacrossthenation;andIhope15yearslater,peopleforgetaboute-commerce,becausetheythinkitislikeelectricitynobodythinkitisahigh-techtoday.Idontwant15yearslater,westillwalkonthestreet,talkingaboutwhyandhowe-commercecanhelppeople.談遭拒（8:25）Ithinkwehavetogetusedtoit.Wearenotthatgood;eventoday

16、,wearestillhavingalotofpeoplewhorejectus.談學(xué)英語（9:51）Idontknowwhyat12or13yearsold,orthattime,Isuddenlyfellloveintothatlanguage,English.AndtheresnoplacewhereyoucanlearnEnglishatthattime;theresnobook,Englishbooks.SoIwenttotheHangzhouHotel,nowcalledtheHangzhouShangri-laHotel,becausethatwasthehotel.thatca

17、nreceivetheforeignvisitors.Soeverymorningfor9yearsIshowedthemaroundasafreeguide,andtheytaughtmeEnglish.AndIthinkthatchangedme.Iam100%madeinChina;InevergotonedaystrainingoutsideChina.SoIthinkthatwasthe9yearstheseWesterntouristsopenedmymind,becauseeverythingtheytoldmewassodifferentfromthethingsIlearnt

18、fromtheschools,andfrommyparents.SonowIhavehadahabitwhateverIseeandwhateverIread,Iusemymindtothinkaboutfor2minutes.談資本（18:26）(IhavenevergotmoneyfromtheChinesegovernment.)Iwanteditinthebeginning,butlaterIdontwantit,becauseIthinkthatifthecompanyisalwaysthinkingaboutpickingmoneyoffthegovernmentspocket,t

19、hatcompanyisarubbish.Thinkabouthowcanyoumakemoneyfromthecustomersandthemarket,andthenhelpthecustomerssucceed.Thatsourphilosophy.(Ithinktherelationshipwiththegovernmentforusisveryinteresting.Ilearnedthatyoushouldneverrelyongovernmentorganisationstodoe-commerce.AndIstartedthebusiness,andItoldthepeople

20、inmyteamthatbeinginlovewiththegovernment;dontmarrythem;respectthem.)5.談所有皆有可能（25:11）Inthebeginning,Ithought.whenIwasyoung,Isaideverythingispossible.NowIknownoteverythingispossible.Youhavetothinkabout.youhavetoconsiderabouttheothers.youhavetoconsideraboutthecustomers,thesociety,youremployees,theshare

21、holders.therearesomanythings.Ithink,ifyoucontinuetoworkhard,therespossibility.Ifyoudontdoit,nothingspossible;ifyoutrytodoit,atleastyouhavethehope.談阿甘（33:16）IlearntsomuchabouttheHollywoodmovies,especiallytheForrestGump.(IlikeForrestGumpbecauseheis)simple,andnevergivesup.Peoplethinkheisdump,butheknows

22、whatheisdoing.Thisistheguyweshouldlearnfrom.Believewhatyouredoing,loveitwhetherpeoplelikeitordontlikeit;besimple.AndIliketheword,Lifeislikeaboxofchocolateyouneverknowwhatyouaregoingtoget.Itoldmypeopleinmydepartment15yearsago,guys,wehavetoworkhard,notforourselves.Ifwecanbesuccessful,80percentoftheyou

23、ngpeopleinChinacanbesuccessful.Wedonthavetherichfather,orpowerfuluncle.Wedontgetonedollarfrombanks,oronecentfromthegovernment.Justworkasateam.談希望（34:49）Iworryaboutthattoday,alotofyoungpeoplelosehope,losevisionandstarttocomplain.Wealsohadthesameperiodbecauseitisnotagoodfeelingtoberejectedbysomanypeop

24、le;wewerealsodepressed.Butlaterwefoundthattheworldhasalotofopportunities(italldependson)howyouseetheworld,andhowyoucatchtheopportunity.談英雄（35:40）MovieprobablyisthebestproductthatcanhelpChineseyoungpeopletounderstand.becauseonethingItoldtheChinesepeople.myfriends,isthatinanAmericanmovie,alltheheroesa

25、tthebeginning,theylookedlikethebadguy.Butwhenterriblethingswerecoming,theybecametheheroandfinallytheyallsurvived.InChinesemovies.alltheheroesdied.Sobecauseonlydeadpeoplebecamethehero,nobodywantstobeahero.(SoIwanttochangetheChinesedefinitionaboutthehero.)Iwanttosaythattoday,wehavesomanyheroesLIVEinth

26、isworld.談太極（36:52）Ilovetaichi.Taichiisaphilosophyabouttheyinandtheyang.Taichiisabouthowyoubalance.Likecompetition.peoplesaywhenIcompetedwitheBayyouhateeBay.AndIsaidno,no,no,IdonthateeBay.Itisagreatcompany,youknow,theycome,Igo.Taichiisaboutthatyoufighthere,Igooverthere;theyputonthetop,Igothedown.Righ

27、tso?ItisaboutBALANCE!YouareheavyandIamsmall,youknow,whenIamsmall,Icanjump;andwhenyouareheavy,youcantjump.Taichiisaboutphilosophy.IusetheTaichiphilosophyinthebusinessCalmdown;theresalwaysawayout.Andkeepyourselfbalanced.Becausebusinessisacompetition,andcompetitionisafun.Businessisnotlikeabattlefieldth

28、atyoudieandIwinevenifyoudie,Imaynotwin.Itsaboutfun.SoTaichigavemealotofinspiration.談改變（38:24）First,Ithinkmanyyearsago,Iwanttochangetheworld.ButnowIthink,beforeIchangetheworld,wechangeourselves.Changingourselvesismoreimportantandeasierthanchangingtheworld.Andsecond,Iwanttoimprovetheworld.Myjobistomak

29、esurethatmyteamishappy.Becauseifmyteamishappy,theycanmakemycustomershappy;Ourcustomersareallsmallbusinesses;whentheyarehappy,wearehappy.談女性（38:56）Aboutwomen.oneofthesecretthoughtsaboutAlibabassuccessisthatwehavealotofwomen.Becauseinthisworld.ifyouwanttowininthe21stCentury,youhavetomakeotherpeoplepow

30、erful,empowerothers,makesurethattheotherpeoplearebetterthanyouare,andthenyouwillbesuccessful.SoIfoundthatwomen.theythinkabouttheothersmorethantheythinkaboutthemselves.Womenthinkaboutthekids,husband,parentsmuchmorethanthemen.Andtheyusethefriendliness.談中國經(jīng)濟(jì)放緩（40:45）Ithinkslowingdownismuchbetterthankee

31、pingonthat9percent.Chinatodayisthesecondlargesteconomyintheworld.Itsimpossibletokeep9percentofthegrowth.IfChinastillkeepsthe9percentofthegrowthoftheeconomy,theremustbesomethingwrong.Youllneverseethebluesky.Youllneverseethequality.Chinashouldpayattentiontothequalityoftheeconomy.Ithink.justlikethatahu

32、mangrowsthisbodycannevergrow,grow,grow.atacertaintime,thegrowthofthebodywillslowdown.Youshouldgrowyourmind,growyourculture,growyourvalue,growyourwisdom.IthinkChinaismovingtothatdirection.談首富（42:00）Iwasreallynothappyinthepast3monthswhenpeoplesayJackMaistherichestpeopleofChina.15yearsago,atmyapartment,mywife.atthattime,oneofthe18founders.Iaskedher:Doyouwantyourhusbandtobearichperson.IsaidnotarichpersoninChina,orarichpersoninHangzhou.ordoyouwantyourhusbandtobearespect